Altadena Census Tracts Map
posted by Jeremiah 2/25/2009 01:07:00 PMView Larger Map
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Micro-news for CT 4601, Altadena, CA
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Los Angeles-Glendale S.A.F.E. COLLECTION CENTER
For the Residents of the City of Los Angeles and the County of Los Angeles
For security purposes, participants will be required to check-in with guard at front gate and show a valid California I.D.
Residential Special Materials and Electronic Waste
WE ACCEPT:
paint and solvents;used motor oil and filters,anti-freeze,and other automotive fluids;cleaning products;pool and garden chemicals; aerosol cans; all medicine; auto batteries; household (alkaline) batteries;fluorescent tubes and bulbs,thermostats,and other mercury-containing lamps.
WE ALSO ACCEPT:
computers, monitors, printers, network equipment, cables, telephones, televisions, microwaves, video games,cell phones, radios, stereos, VCRs, and electronic toys.
RESIDENTS ARE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF SIX PIECES PER VISIT TO A S.A.F.E. CENTER
WE DO NOT ACCEPT:
business waste, ammunition, explosives, radioactive material, biological waste or tires. Bulky Items: furniture, refrigerators, washing machines/dryers, conventional ovens, paper, computer software.
TRANSPORTATION LIMIT FOR CHEMICAL RELATED ITEMS:
It is against the law to transport more than 15 gallons or 125 pounds of hazardous wasteto collection sites.Please pack your waste properly to prevent tipping or spilling of the waste during transportation. No business and/or commercial waste drop-offs
Hours of Operation
Saturday and Sunday
9:00 a.m.- 3:00 p.m.
4600 Colorado Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA90039
| Regular pick up service | Weekly between 6:00a.m.and 6:00p.m. |
| Typesof Containers | One 96 gal Refuse cart |
| Two 96 gal Green Waste carts | |
| Two 96 gal Recycling carts | |
| Additional Trash carts | $5 /month surcharge |
| Additional Recycling and Green Waste carts | Additional carts $5/mo each |
| Different size cart | No charge |
| Bins and dumpsters | Permitted but not covered by the contract |
| Container replacement | No charge |
| BearProof containers | $143 for a 32 gal container |
| $1329 for a 2 cubic yd container | |
| $1519 for a 3 cubic yd container | |
| $1736 for a 4 cubic yd container | |
| Additional Refuse collection | Fourpickups per year |
| (curbside in bags) | |
| Additional Green Waste collection(curbside in bags) | Eight pickups per year |
| Holiday tree collection | No charge |
| Curb side bulky item collection(unlimited) | Two pick ups per year including e-waste |
| Additional bulky item collection | $25 per collection |
| Annual Cleanup | Once a year curb side collection of bulky itemsincluding e-waste and green waste |
| Special Clean up Events | Hauler will provide bins or containers for discardsof solid waste four times a year for community clean up projects or publicevents |
| Senior and Low Income Discounts | Seniors 62 or older who are head of the householdand qualify for a utility discount based on financial need receive a 25%discount |
| Reduced rate for seniors with smallercapacity carts | Seniors 62 or older who are head of the householdand choose three 32 gal containers receive a 25% discount |
| Rollout service | Basic service rate plus a 25% surcharge |
| No charge for Seniors or the disabled whoare the head of the household . | |
| Scooter Service ( small vehicle) | Basic service rate plus a 50% surcharge |
Would you be in favor of Ralphs renovating their Altadena branch?
Would you support Ralphs if they wanted to expand onto the old Washington Mutual property which burned down on 2/28/2008?
I recall prior to The Strike that "Ghetto Ralphs" had planned to renovate. Hope they can finally make that a reality as I'd prefer to patronize them at sometime more convenient than just 6:30am ... but until they shoo-away the evening pan-handlers I continue to trudge to Chez Ralphs in La Canada, even with $4 gas
Please, not another big corporate chain store. Why not a Trader Joes or smaller chain market?

Dear Stonehill News Blogger:
You are not the only one having problems with Allied Waste. A dear friend of mine who lives in Altadena, and, who happens to be 101 years old, has received the same letter. Since Allied took over, they've stopped giving her the senior discount; they increase her rate almost every month; and they are now saying she didn't pay her last bill (for Nov, Dec, and Jan)..... even though she has the cancelled check to prove it.
This was her last week with them. She switched to Athens.
Good Luck to you!!
I meant quarter, not month. sorry!
i live in Altadena and i pay Allied $86.22 or so every quarter. The cost is similar to Athens so no real advantage in changing except if Athens has better service
That's right. The price is so similar it boils down to service. It's the (lack of) good customer service that inspired me to undertake this whole drama. Since I've switched, I'll admit to missing the huge rolling trash can.
All other things being equal, I think I'd probably be inclined to pick Allied based on features. I discovered that they have an automatic payment option (subsequent to switching to Athens). This would prevent the $5 payment drama I experienced, and taken in combination with the big rolling bin, I'm seriously considering going back to Allied for the features and convenience, despite my bad (or more to the point, impersonal) experience with their bureaucracy. Frankly, I have no assurance that I won't get the same sort of red-tape snafu from Athens, who has an arguably inferior product for the same price, and with automatic bill payment, I frankly should never have to talk to or interact with either of them.
I'll post a follow up if I do switch back.
I'd go with the company thats Union and pays it's workers a living wage. BFI payed less then half of what the city of L.A. pays it's trash collectors. With Athens you can pay the guys out of pocket to carry out heavy items.
I have enjoyed visiting your blog..
Hi I'm so glad I found your blog.... I am currently with athens and being hassled beyond belief including being charged for a huge container they say I had in front of my house for a week. This didn't happen and not i have a 300.00 + bill for something I didn't order and they can't proved I ordered etc... but they sure are sending me to collections.... THE THING is .... everyone is talking about allied as having taken over BFI but I'm with Athens and my statement is from ALLIED! Do they now own both BFI and athens???? God help us!
I don't think Allied and Athens the same company (as you say, God help us!). If you're getting a bill from Allied, that's probably different from Athens. I'd call them for clarification if I were you. Please let us know if it turns out they are somehow joined together.
Also, FWIW, I did switch to Allied with the automatic deduction. It's worth it for me to have the large plastic residential bin on wheels.
Original post had a typo where it says ATC.
Any reports on this?
Hope all's well?
I have started a Google Maps version of the Altadena Crest Trail. I am transcribing it from the map published in a flier that was snail-mailed out by LA County several months ago (map is dated 2-1-05). So far my Google version only has the trail heads and the proposed Rubio Canyon Gap segments.Thanks for your purchase, btw. Please encourage others to purchase stuff to help "the cause" :-)







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IT'S NOT TIME TO GO TO SLEEP RE NOYES. At the 4/25/06 School Board Meeting we heard that Noyes did not appear to be a proper site (reasons stated) for a high school. Additionally it was stated that the merits of a separated continuation HS had not even been discussed with the Board, therefore, any location consideration, if needed, was premature. At the May 2. 2006 Board meeting, the same HS continuation plan, without Noyes but with "Location: To be determined," was submitted. Additionally, there was a presentation for the Board which was singly directed toward a dedicated site for a continuation HS, with implementation plans for a dedicated site in the works. There does not appear to be a viable alternative proposal from the Superintendant's Office.
Even though the issue of whether there is a dedicated continuation HS and whether that is located at Noyes are two issues, they are related and both issues to be determined. The Superintendant submits the proposals and recommendations to the Board. The Board decides on whether a dedicated continuation HS is appropriate and where it will be. Even if Noyes is not submitted as a proposed site consistent with Dr Clark's stated determination that Noyes is not an appropriate site, the Board members knowing that Noyes was once considered appropriate, may still vote for the Noyes site for their respective reasons: i.e. it's a done deal.
Fot those who stayed to the end on 4/25/06 we had heard some of the "complaints" about some of the condition of some of the schools by members of the public. However, since there is an official complaint procedure which is to be followed regarding "complaints about schools" and complaints to the Board at Board meetings is not part of the process, it was determined for the in question reporting period that those complaints were not lodged and not referenced.
ADDITIONAL PROBLEM RE THE NOYES SITE
There was a reference to a LAUSD program (I believe LAUSD((my ears don't work as well as in the past)))which is similar to Rose City but has a requirement of at least 14 days in jail (among other requirements) to go to the school. Apparently PUSD uses the facility for some of its qualifyng students from time to time. They said the lease for the facility was running out and that inquiry was made to Pasadena or PUSD for possible sites. The name I heard for the existing school was Alta Pasa or something like that. I was unable to find reference to it on the internet. It was mentioned shortly after reference to a Noyes reference re a continuation HS on 5/2/06. There were a few snickers and hidden/unheard comments among some of the Board members which logically would have been along the lines of "How about Noyes" or "If they didn't want a continuation school, how is this for an alternate." If a lease or sale is made for this out of LAUSD district site, some of the constraints such as renovation costs or community input may be avoided.
I attended the 4/25 PUSD meeting along with others from the Noyes neighborhood. I also spoke to the board during the public comment session and remained at the meeting until some time after 10:00 I also contributed money to AFA that evening as I take your efforts seriously and appreciate the work you folks have done. I was disconcerted by the massive walk out that occured right after Percy Clark made his "cart before the horse" statement and withdrew Noyes as a candidate. As a committed and united neighborhood, there should have been no mass exit as soon as our immediate worries were alleviated. There also should have been no whooping or laughter. It was not respectful to the Board or district. We, as members of a larger community should have remained in our seats and listened politely to the other speakers and heard their concerns even though they are not the same (necessarily) as ours. I was embarrased as I watched many of my own neighbors high fiving and beating a path to the door. We looked like complete NIMBY's and as there is still much to do related to the Noyes property and the district in general, we would have served ourselves better to have behaved in a more attentive and dignified manner. A simple "Thank you for hearing our voices" would have sufficed and while that was accomplished during the comment session later in the evening the original impression had already been set. If there is another such meeting for AFA's in the future, I am hoping you will encourage attendees to demonstrate a deeper and broader commitment to the big picture. There would be no downside to that. Incidentally, as I stated at the PUSD meeting and at the Community Center meeting the night before, my now college age son attended Noyes, I was on PTA and Site Council during my son's K through 6 years there and I believe that Noyes represents a wonderful opportunity for an outstanding neighborhood school within the PUSD or otherwise. Thank you for your time and your efforts. You folks have set an excellent example. Unfortunately it wasn't necessarily followed by all of your neighbors. Let's hope for better the next time as I have to assume this isn't close to over. Janet Castro, Homewood Drive
Janet,
Thanks for participating. I assume you know about the website dedicated to PUSD issues at pasadenaschools.info. Make sure you subscribe to the email list if you are interested in this sort of discussion.
Point of clarification... I am referring to the pasadenaschools email list, not the stonehillnews email list, although you are certainly invited to join both. The stonehillnews list is much lower volume and focuses on neighborhood issues rather than PUSD issues.
I've already emailed my Town Council representatives.
I am guilty of NIMBY and proud of it.
My family and I moved to this particular area of Altadena to avoid the inner city, not to get closer to it.
Consider me a VERY STRONG advocate AGAINST this proposition and I plan on being very vocal on this issue!
Isaac Garcia
1537 E. Loma Alta Drive
garciahouse@gmail.com
Having spent a lot of time at Noyes in the past (I went to school there) and also some time there recently, (one of my best friends teaches at Noyes), I would have to say that I am pretty familiar with the campus. I find it laughable that PUSD would even suggest that they could put 600-700 10th to 12th grade students at that site. It currently houses less than 300 students and on any given day there are about 25 staff members and they already have parking problems. The campus is designed to be an elementary school and I don't see how a financially strapped district can spend the money which would surely be in the 10s of thousands to make the campus ready for high school students. How can that cost be justified when the largest high school campus in the district, John Muir, has an enrollment (according to a 2006 PUSD publication) of only 1290 students vs. the 2787 at PHS. The Pasadena Star News states that one of the reasons that the Rose City campus is not suitable for high school students is that it has no athletic fields, labs or meeting spaces - neither does Noyes. Why not move these students to an appropriate location where they can have access to all of these things, plus vocational programs and extracurricular activities which just might pull these students out of their "struggling" status.
There are so many reasons beyond the strictly NIMBY ones for why this is a really bad idea. I plan to email these reasons not only to each and every Town Council member (including Justing Chapman who heads the education subcommittee of the Altadena Town Council) but also to Percy Clark, the superintendent of PUSD. I hope that everyone in the neighborhood who is against this plan does the same.
Norah Small
2870 Stonehill Dr.
norah@stonehillnews.com
I have worked at Noyes Elementary for 22 years. In that time, our campus has changed dramatically. When I was first hired, many of the students came from the Noyes neighborhood and their parents were extremely active in PTA. It was a very special, dynamic school. We had monthly sing-a-longs, dedicated PTA families, and a wonderful reputation. When our popular and extremely well-liked principal, Mr. Bill Rosecrans, was transferred to Sierra Madre School and a new principal replaced him, the school began to lose families due to the change in leadership. When that principal moved on, the district made the wise decision to hire Dr. Isaac Hammond. This principal, like Mr. Rosecrans, was highly popular among families and the school began to flourish again. After Isaac left, a series of other principals were brought in, but they lacked the leadership skills that attracted families to the school. It is my feeling that we need to encourage the district to carefully choose principals, teachers, and programs that would make schools attractive to families. Noyes could be the wonderful school it once was if the families in this community were vocal about the kind of a school they want to see for their children. Perhaps Noyes could be reopened in the near future as an elementary site if we can communicate our ideas and visions for its future to this district.
Denise Johnson
Labels: Altadena, CT4601, NeighborhoodWatch
I think we should all assume that the crime wave is slightly related to the rampant amount of construction going on in the neighborhoods.
Our daytime-neighborhood population probably swells by 10% with all of the different workers, vendors and suppliers in the area.
I think crime is inevitable. We all just need to keep aware and watch out for each other.
You are probably on a productive track, Issac. One other thing to look at while "patterning": Do the times correspond with out-of-school times? That might suggest a juvenile. Also, I believe there is a small group home for girls on Via Maderas, off Rubio Canyon Rd. Since I don't think these girls have cars and they are not so close, this would be a pretty unlikely focus. And yes, Isaac, we have to take care of eachother. In our neighborhood, just west of the upper entrance to Eaton Canyon, we have not succeeded in organizing a formal Neighborhood Watch so my suggestion has been that each one have close contacts with about four adjacent neighbors. It makes for a network. Helps if you run out of milk or sugar, too. One evening I put out an APB for two potatoes and three neighbors met me in the street each with a sack of potatoes!
"Deputy Estrada with the Altadena Sheriff's will be at the home of Rick and Theo Engen's house on 1602 Woodglen Lane from 7 - 7:30 pm this Wednesday, March 1st for a Neighborhood Watch Meeting. I'm sure there will be discussion afterward, but this is when the deputy is available."See you there :)
Labels: Altadena, CT4601, NeighborhoodWatch
since we all can't make it to the meeting, hopefully someone can provide a digest for us who couldn't attend?
thanks, Isaac
If you live in the greater LA region (or maybe anywhere in the country for that matter), you would have to be particularly un-observant to have missed the hot real estate market. A look at the LA County Assessor web site can be quite astounding. I created the composite image at right by overlaying one of their maps on a satellite image of our neighborhood. The tinted tracts are ones that recently sold.1. Right before Christmas a house was broken into on Windfall. It happened during the day. Not sure of what was taken or what happened.Thanks for the heads up, Isaac. If anyone knows more details (without posting private details please) about these stories, we'd love to know. Stay vigilant, everyone. Sometimes it's hard to remember to treat security like we live in a major metro area, even up here in our little town.
2. Another neighbor on Loma Alta (between Noyes and the Rubio Basin) had their Cadillac Escalade stolen right out of their drive way. The thief must have had a key since the alarm didn't go off and there was no sign of entry (no glass etc). My wife's parents live down on La Paz Road (a mile south of here) and their neighbor also had their Escalade stolen out of their drive way the same way. The cops say that 4 were stolen in the area within a few days. They were found stripped out in San Bernadino somewhere. Cops think it might be an inside job with a dealership or a body shop.
Labels: Altadena, CT4601, NeighborhoodWatch
Thanks Jeremiah - your time to discuss the issues on the phone and this correction of the situation is very appreciated!
Mohan & Rosalinda
Thanks for this update and thanks for being humble enough to post the full story. I hope we havn't scared the Chhabra's away!
I have to agree with Mohan that I, too, would appreciate a face to face or even a telephone call if any of my neighbors had an issue with me, my family or my property.
Isaac
Loma Alta Drive
Yes, it is most unfortunate that simple a discussion between persons did not actually happen before the rumor mill got cranked up. It appears that the "in person" conversations that were supposed to have happened never did. Now that I have finally talked to Mohan in person, I am confident that all those for whom the barking was an issue, as well as the Chhabra family themselves would have been saved a good deal of stress if only such a connection had been made sooner. Let all those who "campaigned" against the barking dog take a lesson from this.
Again my sincere regrets that this situation got out of hand and sincere thanks to the Chhabras who clearly intend to remedy the situation now that they are aware of it.
You should advertise this blog to more of our neighbors to encourage community. I live on Loma Alta Drive but still appreciate your blog. I love the weather station and was wondering how much rain Altadena has received this season (61 inches!) and I was always curious as to what the elevation was here! I estimated around 1450-1600 one time....seems like I was close.
Regarding the speed limit, you are right on the money. For a quiet street, Loma Alta gets a fare bit of traffic.




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